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the criminals either dressed up as prosecutors or judges, the society is unraveling, the purpose of the law is to protect the civil society. the purpose of the civil society is to protect individual, when the collective, the state uses the law to punish individuals is ceases to become legitimate. if we are to be a western enlightened society and individuals like letitia james, jack smith, fani willis were to be condemned. they're targeting donald trump and people around donald trump, they're targeting us there sending a match to this republic and they're destroying it, every damn one o also you next time on "life liberty and levin".
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♪ >> goo >> trey: good evening and thank you for joining us. i am trey gowdy and it is "sunday night in america." the south carolina primary is in the books and announcement o trf super tuesday or is it? south carolinave governor nikki haley overwhelmingly in her own home state, but she vowed to stay in the race despite a string of losses. >> i'm not giving up this fightg when a majority of americans disapprove of both donald trump and joe biden. >> meanwhile late february, former president donald trumpfom already has early november on h. >> our party is full of energy like never before. r been unique -- there is never been unity in ouy states, the fact that we get double the number of votes innu history? en athere has never been anythig like it. >> trey: i'm not a psychiatrist, but you don't have
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to be one to wear that theo g.o.p. is truly unified. just listen or watch or readinen prominent republicans were booed at republican victory party last night. the person who joined arms with democrat to overthrow a speaker was cheered. over half of nikki haley supporters say they will nothe support donald trump in november and trump supporter's would not support her either. it doesn't matter.re the republicans control the house folyr only a name. the senate g.o.p. is fracturedex appear at the exit polling shows e g.o.p.ies under th umbrella. about that.hing new what is new is these twow thparties, these two wings withn the g.o.p. send to hate one another. families fight and then they forgive and come together and move on and that happens all thl time. therapy can work. but you you the later you stare longer it takes.
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there was war affections last night. the former presidents at the party was unified but the crowd and the voters and his opponent are singing a different tune.nie is the nation ready for a nine-month general election? to win? g.o.p. want or do they want to fight these battles? let's find out. the associate research scholar and politics of public affairs at princeton university and david is a former new york state senator who served as a democrat. welcome to you both. bot dr. wright, i did not hear ast unified party last night. and the exit polling such ason factions within the g.o.p. and they don't seem to like each other. are republicans going to coalesce in november or does the fighting continue? >> i mean, i couldn't agree with you more. what i seeor is historic disuni. we often forget that nikki haley is the last one standing butof it's not one, not two but threeg
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former trump administration members run against the former president. that hasn't happened in almost 90 years since fdr ran against -- it is historic disunity and 30% to 40% is consistently voting for me, thae is right there is this anti-trump wing that is not pleased and i'm not under the illusion that i don't think we'll get the job done but i think it is healthy for the g.o.p. to have debates about what leadershieadep looks like n the world stage and moral and ethical issues, where religion has a place on the party's platform. all of these things are painful and sometimes embarrassingy but they need to get hashed out iftf the g.o.p. ever wants to win again. >> trey: all rightn ag senator,h let me welcome you. this is your first time with us and we are delighted fir to havv you. things are not warm and loving it doesn't seem on the democrat side either. let's listen together and i will get you to respond on the other side.
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>> i think the democrat party should turn the page. president biden wants to be transitional president. said o>> in your show that he wd be president and sai kamala hars woul d be waiting in the wings and not to become president.incl i think she has disappointed a lot of people, including me, and i think the team that is in place right now should step aside. i don't see ho w he can beat donald trump. >> trey: now, to be fair, that is just one voice but polling indicates he is not alone in wanting president biden to pass the torch. do you think that will happen?s. that the torch will be passeder before november? and if it is past, to whom will it be passed? >> i don't think so. i think biden will be the candidate we saw in south carolina and you are righn there is a lot of subjectiveolls information and a lot of polls out there bug tht the most impot thing to look at his election results. we saw on february 3rd in 9
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south carolina, president biden got 96% of6% the vote.a that is a huge number and that shows solidarity we hung president biden and yes, 130,00a people that voted maybe itvo wasn't the most exciting campaign and supposed to what happened in south carolina yesterday. but you have a sitting congressman running an active campaign againstcongng a the pr. there could be a huge protest vote if we took all of theth polling and all of the antidotal information that we hear from pendants. i would expect a bigger protest vote but we didn't see that. 96% of the voters voted for joe biden of. have to look at the polls are ac good indicator predilections are even better. that is where i take my information from. i think joe biden is on a clear pathway forward and unlike the republicans still hashing things out and trying to come together, the democrats for the first time in at ti long time are really
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unified. it is nohet necessarily we think president biden is the bestd thing since slicedth bread., he he's done a good job and is far better than the alternative with the donald trump. >> trey: you no, i don't know if they are unified or just better at fighting and private. the republicans seem to like tot fight in public. s moreight, the porter i than immigration and valedictorians and dreamers, which is what it used to be but there is a metaphor for what f country we live in an pub public safety as we saw in georgia, national security culmination of a law. so are we headed towards an election of immigration versus abortion in november? are those going to be the two dominant issues? >> that would be a great cast.to immigration is not a good issue for democrats no matteissur howu slice it. biden's has been inconsistentmi
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with trump -- behind the scenes whillee publicly bashing trump a trying to do some of the same things. but you're absolutely right, th, g.o.p. has their own albatross around their neck and that is abortion. that was the biggest problem foo them in 2022. y i think they are stuck with biden. the only thing worse than biden campaigning is kamala harris campaigning because she's more unpopular than him and that is saying something. >> up until recently, you're right the emigration thing are front and center. people are concerned about the migrant issue, but republicans have fumbled the ball. the fact that democrats are coming to the table saying, "yes, we need comprehensive immigration reform. this has to be a long-termat solution.lead what do the leaders do?t congress saygos no, we will noto anything. it is taking the issue off of the table. that is why we did well in congressional district three and long island with tom's was a. the congressional members,
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hey come elected to congress ane i will not do anything. i will just give all my power to donald trump so why elect any of these mayors to congress? the democrats might have problems, but republicans are doing much worse. >> trey: you may be right, senator, but ultimately come i don't know.me sometimes the jury portions responsibility and blame and s e shall see in november, but this will not be the last time we have a chance to talhat k about these issues. i can't thank you both enough or joining us in a civil way in which you discuss these often times difficult issues. think you both very much. see you soon. >> thank you. >> trey: hunter biden is finally going to answer questionp afbides under oath, me meanwhile, the star witness is a defendant at the criminal case. congressman mike waltz breaksss that dowman for us. plus, new evidence may contradict fani willis but does it change the outcome in geo
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georgia? katie cherkasky will be on "sunday night in america."
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♪ ♪ >> trey: welcome back tonday "sunday night in america." house republicans continued toct pursue impeachment inquiry on president biden. the g.o.p. majority is narrow. republicans had several imperfections on thetent alejandro mayorkas impeachment. and one just got indicted.this this has president biden's brother james testified, "the president has never had any involvement or anyinan financial interest in his misadventures." meanwhile hunter biden to beh deposed this week even though facing criminal charges. joining asrges a former congres,
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mike waltz on foreig sn affairse welcome and thank you for for joining us as we do not get to pick our witnesses. many of them, trust me i've spent two decades experiencing witnesses who carry baggage. practically and politically, how can you use a witness who is indicted for lying and nowan accused of working with russia? practically, politically, how can you do that? >> well, trey come a couple of things with this fbi informant r that chris wray himself said is a reliable informant, a highly compensated one, when they have used for 14 years. so where question is, why was h find thequ last 13 and have been used repeatedly byand the bureb all kinds of cases? but now, suddenly, he is now suddenly found to be lying on am 1023 form that the fbi refusedru
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to give the committee, fought hard to keep quiet?not wouldn't acknowledge even forti the longest time untilme a whistle-blower came out? now, not only is he suddenly unreliable and now been charged, but is an agent of russianian intelligence. again, after 14 years of the fbi director's own words of being highly compensated, highlysate reliable informant. it smells to all get up. at the end of the day, the fact still remain at hunter had zero experience by his own admission and was paid over $1 million a year to be on a board in one of the corrupt countries in the world. according to his own business h partners testimonyis, they havey d.c. problem. they called dad and just aca little bit of time later, the prosecutor was fired appeared at the end of the day, that is an official policy position and withholding billions of dollars
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in aid from ironically the same thing they went after trump onbe but biden actually did. not just talked about on a phone call but actually did buy his own admission. none of those facts can bedesp changed despite democrats trying to muddy the waters. >> trey: you know the bureau also said chris steele was a reliable source. the they pay them a lot of money. so maybe the bureau was bad in judging character, which is not good if you are the nation's premier law enforcemenhe lt age. jamie raskin said the impeachment inquiry is over and dead now. you have a narrow majority and the border is actually a reallyn really big issue. you are heading into november. where in your judgment does the impeachment inquiry stand with all the other thingsand ll t gof the limited compressed calendar that face visual? >> welcome again, trey, it is worth reminding everyone that the inquiry status gives us additional standing in court tot get things in documents and
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information that the administration, the biden family is refusins ang to give us. for example, all of biden's email accounts that he sent out emails to hunter's business partners, for which he claimed he had never contacted and lied in front of the american peoplee the national archives has informed the committee theyhive can't give us those emails from his bank accounts because white house counsel current white house counsel has told the national archives not to give them to us. the inquiry gives us additional standing to get after those ils emails and those dealings w biden's business partners he never dealt with. at the end of the day,day did e pay taxes on the money comingin in? are they using the loan monitor as avoidance mechanism for paying taxes which is a classic money laundering technique?
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to this case, trey, we have ants obligation to follow the facts appear they were so much smoke anndd fire here. clearly hunter thanks to the work of the committee is finally being indicted, but the ties to his father, we still have a lot to dig into. of course, we have an uphill climb because the media doesn't want to talk about it, but at te the end of the day we have to gn after it. i think we will change some mind gets when we get to the bos of the information that is still out there. >> trey: congressman, i noticed you were in south carolina last night. if you need help to find a homel let me know and we will find you ou aa great one. we would love to have you here.. in the meantime, thank you fora joining us on a sunday night. thank you foyourr your service. it is days of our lives in the georgia courtroom as fulton county d.a. fani willisd and hand chosen prosecutor and former lover, nathan wade, face questions about their credibility.y it it is interesting, salacious, but is it legally relative and t sufficient enough to get them
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kicked off of the case? katie cherkasky a former federal prosecutor and defense attorney, and she joins ushe now. thank you so muco h for being here. i like a good soap opera i guesi is the next person does, but as defense counsel madesel the cae for the disqualification of the prosecutors in your judgment? >> well, this is to think great but it is also sad because defendants on th'se other side h those who haveav their lives hanging in the balance essentially appeared i think we can take a look at what the supreme court saidt th in 1935 a prosecutors. what they say it prosecutor mayu strike hard blows but they are not at liberty -- fani willis with nathan wade on the verge of not only being in this case but the case dismissed with prejudice because of these new textd by message and communicatn reformations. >> trey: how do you view the standard? s ago i was ar prosecutor.
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we ran from the potential fordi conflict. we didn't want the appearance of conflict. but if the standard is actualwh conflict for disqualification, what does that look like? and how do you view the standard in georgia?he >>n when you have a senior prosecutor, ada actually bringing on an outside contractt attorney with no experience orte very little experience and paying them more than what other contract attorneys are beingtorn paid and get these benefits of personal, you have to wonder if there is a conflict and if she is benefiting from the relationship because of his involvement in the case ande whether there is any sort of impact on the case itself. in terms of the disqualification, i think it was kind of a close call before we knew that the timeline of the relationship may very well have existed long before the indictments and the grand jurydt portion of this case were even occurring. now that it seems to be evident
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that there is strong evidence that this relationship began way before therelay both claimed itd and that is putting beside the perjury, there is a question about the genesis of the case altogether. the propriety of the case altogether.or the question for the judges not only do i need new prosecutors on the case, but do prosi have s get rid of this case altogether because the taint is essentially irreversible. it is a matter of degree but here it is looking a lot more tainted. >> trey: yeah, you are right. the new evidence to impeach ases their credibility and trustworthiness is always relevant. credibility is always relevant. let me ask you this, the whole saga might well result in a delay for the former president and the other defendants. if i'm a defendant come i think i want to be prosecuted by doe somebody who does real estate closings or drafts wills. i don't want someone with lots. of prosecutorial experience, do
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i? and is it possible to win the battle but lose the war by getting these two kicked off of the case? >> i think thank iant is an interesting point.defe i think altogether the defendants will go for the full dismissal. how can you ever trust proprieto of this prosecution from thefr very beginning when you know ata least, it seems, fani willis iss conflicted or appears to have been conflicted and personallysf involving herself and benefitino from thises prosecution of all these people. so i see your point in terms of having so-called less experienced prosecutor on they are but if you can avoid a prosecution altogether and i don't thinntk anybody will wanto roll thaeriet nice no matter how experienced a prosecutor might be. >> trey: i look forward toto joining you next time and thank you for being here on a sunday night. >> thank you for having me here. >> trey: president biden considering taking executive action on the border. gosh, i wonder what changed? tom homan joins us right afterrt the break only on "sunday night in america."
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white house tomorrow. and those talks will also include renewed efforts in getting emergency aid for ukraine and israel. past the government will go into a full shutdown if there's no budget or stopgap by march eighth. and republican presidential sunday night america, all your headlines on foxnews.com. trey: welcome back to "sunday night in america". sometimes hate can blind you, you dislike someone so much you refuse to concede that they may have been right. i wonder if that's what happened with now president biden undid
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everything his predecessor did when it came to the border and immigration and chaos has been our constant companion every sense not just chaos, drugs and crime and national security threats in voters are making their displays known some surveys rank the border number one on the minds of voters, how can the border be the number one issue in states far removed from the border because the border and immigration are no longer happy talk among the media about dreamers and a path to citizenship for valedictorians is a metaphor for what seems to be broken in this country, laws are ignored and drugs are killing americans in the national security threat is real in nursing students are being murdered, people no real nations have real boundaries and no countries no who is coming and why in real nations protect
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women jogging not venezuelan games, having a border doesn't make you racist or nativist or any more than having a fenced in backyard makes you a bad neighbor. biden seriously misjudged the american people and now he's trying to backtrack as fast as he can in considering executive action because he knows the voters are blaming him for the disaster that is our southern border. but he's in a party that does not like fences except their own or cops except their own private security detail, what will biden do and more importantly will the voters of fall for it. tom homan a former acting ice director and a fox news contributor and he joins us now, welcome it was not that long ago the president biden's party wanted to defund the police and defund ice. i'm just wondering how well did that go over with the american people?
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>> they never abolished ice, the talk from the left they we're going to abolish ice i said they will never abolished the federal agency but the abolish submission, they will starve them for money that's exactly what happened, isis mission is gone 85% of the cavuto will aliens of the trump administration we cannot arrest during the some initiation in the money from the stories lately ice is releasing thousands of people because they don't have money for beds they could not fill a bed for $170 a night but we can give an ngo of $500 a night they eventually shot ice operations down and i think the american people are beginning to realize what happened to georgia what's happening in new york and all the criminal aliens out about committing serious crimes against police officers and citizens in our people understand where is ice, ice has been shut down so ice is not looking for criminal aliens. trey: meanwhile their hearing president biden claim what you
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are about to listen to. let's listen together and i'll ask you a question on the other side. >> are laws and resources have not kept our immigration system and is broken. our politics have failed to fix it. if this matters to you it matters as the state tell your members of congress to show a little spying, past the bipartisan security bill with water more of your colleagues. trey: i'm going to translate that, it's not my fault, blame congress that's a convenient talking point, but congress is not popular but president trump did it without any help from congress, what is the truth, whose fault is it? >> president biden, he came in office and wrote 90 executive orders abolishing everything that we did to create the most insecure border in my lifetime, he ended the country agreements,
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he ended the detention of all illegal aliens, number catch and release he did away with all of that. i agree with him, they immigration system is broken but he broke it we had the most secure border in my lifetime because of actions by president trump, without the help of congress, president biden can fix the border tomorrow and put the remaining mexico program back in place the highest court of the land that legal he can put the third country bakken he can in the catch and release and he should in the catch and release because regular statute says as you know when illegal alien enters the united states without proper documentation it says they shall be detained that's where the law calls for but he's ignoring the law so he can fix this with the stroke of a pen tomorrow but he spent three years doing everything that he can to create open borders and the absent at the damn thing now he wants to blame congress and republicans, it's
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disgusting. >> blaming congress is always abated it doesn't happen to be accurate tom homan for rice director, who knows if there's another public administration on the horizon. you may be in that one too. thank you for joining us on a sunday night and thank you for your service to our country and. >> compromises a small constituency in our culture tends to reward the voices. but maybe there is a hunger, quieted times but a hunger for solutions which involve compromise. we do in our everyday lives all the time it's just considered a curse word and politics for some reason. one person not afraid to try to work things out as pennsylvania congressman brian fitzpatrick, thank you for joining us, welcome, the senate foreign aid seems unlikely to pass the house but a majority of americans want to provide help to israel, ukraine, taiwan and secure the
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border. you believe that can be done, tell us how? >> thank you for having me we have a bipartisan proposal in the house and by the way when i allow the enemy of the good because revealing with time sensitive and exit essential matters at her own southern border and also with ukraine, israel and taiwan into the past seven days the city has fallen a very pivotal city in the donbas region now as a russian federation flag flying over it, 200 families in the past seven days 200 american families had to bury their children to fentanyl overdose that can be tied to our southern border. these are time sensitive and exit essential in the senate bill i don't believe has the votes it is probably not good to be able to get on the floor. we want to get something done we have a bipartisan proposal equally balanced between democrats and republicans and
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reinstitute remaining mexico reinstitute title 42 without the public health requirement and also provides military defense spending only to ukraine, israel and taiwan. trey: congressman, let's start overseas let's listen to president zelenskyy let's listen together and i have a question on the other side. >> we talked earlier about what happens if the u.s. for some reason does not give you the funds, do you have other options are there other options. >> this is crucial so without it sorry but will have more and have more [indistinct] , because artillery. >> trey: you came back from overseas and are calling bret baier o
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r just had a riveting interview with president zelenskyy. we just saw some of it. others, though, congressmen arel giving a platform for vladimir putin. where did this pro-russia wing of the republican party come from customer >> come trey, this is one of the areas we see in certain areas where deliverables and libertarians are together. i don't know where it's come from. it is isolation which i think is incredibly dangerous and it is t naive particularly world war iid history. it is noeren different than thee bully in the schoolyard, trey. the bully will steal your lunch money. vladimir putin is a bully in ukraine is on the front lines of freedom versus dictatorship. this battle was already fought world war ii into democracy won pure democracy won over communism dictatorship. wetato have a rise of dictators
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across the globe trying to reeducate the world war ii. we have to make sure they are not successful. >> trey: congressman you always had a reputation for trying t o work things out and find solutions. it is good to see that has not changed. thank you for joining us on aso lusunday night. we wish you well.in >> you bet, thanks, trey. >> trey: coming up if we thought telephone outages this week was badif, wait until china l cyber attack? dusty johnson returned from taiwan where them china threat has been looming for decades. he joins us next only on "sunday night in america." ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ >> trey: welcome back to "sunday night in america." a bipartisan delegation and u.s.went lawmakers went to taiwan this week led by mike gallagher, the chair select committee on chinam they met with taiwan's president. there is a bipartisan support fotar u.s. taiwan partnership which chairman gallagher described as stronger and morech .ock-solid than ever what the u.s. come to taiwan sadie of china did attack?ck and while china is unlikely to launch -- the cyber is growing.
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at&t and others faced widespreae outages due to what the company called a failed software update. but republican senator marco rubio warns that cell phone outage pales in comparison to what a r real chinese cyber attack would lookh like. south dakota congressman, dusty johnson. welcome and thank you for being here. it is not just you andbi's senator rubio, the head of the fbi is warning about the potential cyberattacks. i don't want to unnecessarily alar m people, but they need to hear the truth. what is chris wray talking about? he has now twice warned us abouw what could be coming. >> the chinese communist party,r theyem have invested tremendous resources, trey clement cyber attack capability. and they are and good at this he they are working with the most expert proxies in the world.
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you are right for him at theseol attacks are already a daily para of life and taiwan. we were there the last few days are talking 20 million attacks per month. the taiwanese military alone suffering 3,000 attacks a dayir from the ccp and partners. this is a real threat. >> trey: congressman, do you think the u.s. militarily, with the american people support a d military defense of taiwan andef china if they were to attack? i ask because there is thisgr growing dove wing within the republican party. and i guess our policy towardsyt china has strategic ambiguity. i'm not smart enough to knowwh what that means.atme so ambiguous it fooled me. but do b you think the u.s. woud really defend taiwan if china attacked? >>n re listen, i'm a regular
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republican, trey peace throughyt strength but more than saber rattling what we need to do is make sure that taiwan has theha tools they need to defend themselves. we are doing a pretty terrible top of that right now. there is a $20 billion backlog. an armed sails, these are armsan that the taiwan government has already paid for, agreed to pay for, and we are not doing a good makeenough job of making sure wd what they need to defend themselves. this doesn't have anything to do with ukraine. like f-16 fighters that we have just a had a hard time deliverig to taiwan. i if we want to avoid war and everyone should want to avoid war, we need to make sure deterrence i ws in place. that will mean strong taiwann military. >> trey: look, it is a long trip to taiwan. the fact that you went shouldans mean something to your colleagues. what will your message bure to them when you see them again on the floor of the house? whaton t is your message about
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taiwan to your republicanague colleagues? >> what we heard in taiwan is the same thing i heard from tonh blair, the former time though mi prime minister when he visited congress two years ago now here he said, y'all's political dysfunction is a global security threat. when america is mature, when we are responsible, when we are calm, the world is a safe place. trey, when we are bickering, fighting and strolling at one another and when we are beset by gridlock, the world is a more dangerous place. putin loves american dysfunction. xi jinping loves american, irano all the bad guys love dysfunction. so when we dither whether or no we will support our allies and israel, ukraine, taiwan, the bad guys win. , thwe have to pull it together. >> trey: thank you for joining us on a sunday night. thank you for taking time awayki from your family and allng theou
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other things you could be doing in south dakota to go visit taiwan.aiwa that is not an easy trip. thank you for doing that. >> thank you, trey, and you are exactly right about gallagher. we will miss it.ida >> trey: trying to pass social media bam for young people. will it work? is it constitutional? that is next otutin "sunday night in america." ♪ ♪
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>> trey: welcome back to "sunday night in america." you may recall a couple of weeks eo mago facebook ceo, mark zuckerberg did this. [applause] >> [indistinct]d this is whthy we invested so muh in you with efforts to make surt that no one has to go to prison. >> trey: sorry for what, mark?rr what exactly are you sorry for? sorry you provided a forum for bullies who exploited children or sorry so many peopleyoun suffering from depression, loneliness and thoughts of suicide? sorry so many parents areen, bearing their children? talk is cheap, especially for a billionaire. so if you are really sorry, whau are you doing about it? because show us something. it shouldn't take a senate hearing for social median, companies to figure out ifin d products are used to in
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dangerous ways. they know and have, but someve people value money at the expense of pain and grief and anguish. this week florida passed a bill to block children under the age of 16 of using social mediabi platforms. the bill preventsll young teens from creating social media accounts and deletes existing ones. governor ron desantis says he agrees with the sentiment, but fears it will not withstand legal scrutiny. so what now?by t we are joined by two people who have lived in the space for years. heritagerector of the foundation and founder of the walk-off movement. no doubt the bill is well-intentioned and the damage on social media is real. are there legitimate concerns that con can pass constitutiona? muster? i t >> i think there was always a concern. this is why our states and ourhe labs of democracy. we see the same thing happening like tomorrow, monday, the supreme court will hear oralrgum
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arguments along the lines of the specific bills.bi social media censorship bills passed in florida and texas.en i texas is leading the way when it comes to requiring reasonable age verification by third parties for these platforms. it ireats a great, strong, stanf these states have to keep sorting aheaosd and do the most important thing which is to protect their children from the predations of these big tech companies. parents like myself are outgunned and we need legislative help. >> trey: all right, emma, assuming the bill is constitutional mahout in your judgment will or can it be because a lot of people and alcohol, cigarettes, vaping, there are age laws for all ofll that and people find their way around it.n th how can this be enforced? >> that is a great question,
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trey. that is the issue at hand that we are facing. young people understand how to get around limits. they have for years many different avenues. so social media is no different. the genie is out of the bottle. social media is here to stay. therefore, we have to look at other ways to design platforms for young people rather than just putting up bams. we need to critically investigate how we can hold these companies accountable so honest does not fall on the parent or usurper on tingupe ne them toate ho can hoo protect young people and their mental health. >> i will ask yoprotu both assua question becausesk neither one o old enough to be a senator but one day you might be. kara, we will start with yourber what would you ask jud mark zuckerbergs of the world if you are on the senate judiciary committee anand then, emma, you testified before a senate committee, but let's assume 30 years from now you are actually the senator doing the questioning. what wouldould both of you ask? kara, you go first and then you, emma. >> i would say, mark, you haveth to stop the bleeding.
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the first thing ang when that ms stop designing products as emma said so well, stop designing products with addictive features to draw in kids. there was an interesting data point thatinte came out of face, those documents that said, c facebook was actually creatings teens to draw in younger andsi younger users. they considered and dered i quot retains a valuable but untappeda audiencend. stop that first and foremost. as i said, secondly, designed these products so you don't have to retrofit legislation likeslat man's spirit but i'm sorry, you have to stop the bleeding. you have to cauterize the wound and you have to be in especiall for minors under the age of 16. you just have to stop and designed with privacy, with empowering parents, withgs i stringent default settings in mind if you designed these products to begin with. >> exactly. senator lemke. >> i want to echo everything,
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too. i believe what we have to say is empty words are costing us lives, the lives of youngnext individuals, the legs of theal next generation. we need to see tech companies actually step up and take action designed products so they are not addictive or taking advantagage e of the brains of g people across the country. we need to demand better and see results. right now we are nothem seeing them. therefore, it cannot be maintained. >> trey: i'm grateful to both of you for sharing your expertise on a sunday night. >> thanks, trey. >> thank you. >> trey: thank you for spending part of your sunday with us. i hope you have a great week gre ahead. until next week find us online at gaudi america >> todd: we are learning more information about the illega

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